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  1. افتراضي What is the Dabbah?

    What is the Dabbah?
    وَإِذَا وَقَعَ الْقَوْلُ عَلَيْهِمْ أَخْرَجْنَا لَهُمْ دَابَّةً مِّنَ الْأَرْضِ تُكَلِّمُهُمْ أَنَّ النَّاسَ كَانُوا بِآيَاتِنَا لَا يُوقِنُونَ
    And when the Word is fulfilled against them (the unjust), we shall produce from the earth a creature to (face) them: She will speak to them, for that mankind did not believe with assurance in Our Signs.
    An-Naml, Chapter #27, Verse #82


    So what is this “Creature” or “Dabbah”? it is a Human Being
    !!

    وَلَوْ يُؤَاخِذُ اللَّهُ النَّاسَ بِظُلْمِهِم مَّا تَرَكَ عَلَيْهَا مِن دَابَّةٍ وَلَـٰكِن يُؤَخِّرُهُمْ إِلَىٰ أَجَلٍ مُّسَمًّى ۖ فَإِذَا جَاءَ أَجَلُهُمْ لَا يَسْتَأْخِرُونَ سَاعَةً ۖ وَلَا يَسْتَقْدِمُونَ
    If Allah were to punish men for their wrong-doing, He would not leave, on the (earth), a single living creature: but He gives them respite for a stated Term: When their Term expires, they would not be able to delay (the punishment) for a single hour, just as they would not be able to anticipate it (for a single hour).
    An-Nahl, Chapter #16, Verse #61)


    The “Dabbah” or “creature” is a human being who spoke the truth and will judge between the Muslims and Christians about how can God take a son? Therefore it does not sense when people say that this creature is an animal, for how can an animal speak to people and judge between them? The Dabbah/Creature will speak to people because he is a man. Just as God created Adam with no father and no mother, and just as he created Eve with no mother, he also created Jesus son of Mary with no father.

    إِنَّ مَثَلَ عِيسَىٰ عِندَ اللَّهِ كَمَثَلِ آدَمَ ۖ خَلَقَهُ مِن تُرَابٍ ثُمَّ قَالَ لَهُ كُن فَيَكُونُ
    The similitude of Jesus before Allah is as that of Adam; He created him from dust, then said to him: "Be" and he “Becomes”.
    Aal-e-Imran, Chapter #3, Verse #59


    So the Dabbah/Creature that will speak to you is the word of God that he threw to Mary “Be” and it “Becomes


    وَيُكَلِّمُ النَّاسَ فِي الْمَهْدِ وَكَهْلًا وَمِنَ الصَّالِحِينَ
    "He will speak to the people from the crib, as well as an adult (kahl); he will be one of the righteous."
    Aal-e-Imran, Chapter #3, Verse #46


    So the first miracle is that he will speak to the people in his childhood and this time has already past. So there is another miracle that still did not happen and will soon be. Allah will soon return his soul to his body so he will be resurrected, to speak once again to the people, but not in his childhood, this time his soul will return to his body and he will speak to the people as an adult – in maturity/old age. If you do not believe me then what is the miracle in speaking to the people in maturity? Where is the miracle in that? If someone come to you and speaks to you in maturity, where do you find a miracle in this? So the miracle is that soul will return to his body so his soul speaks to the people again as an adult / in maturity.


    Then someone might ask me but the Allah/God said in the Koran that “SHE” will speak to them not “HE”. Then we reply to him and say that Allah is referring to the soul of Jesus son of Mary not to the man. Because it is his soul that will return to speak to you. This is why it is referred to in female form not male because the soul is referred to in female form in the Koran. For example the soul that was killed in the people of Israel and they were arguing about it to know who is the killer.

    وَإِذْ قَتَلْتُمْ نَفْسًا فَادَّارَأْتُمْ فِيهَا ۖ وَاللَّهُ مُخْرِجٌ مَّا كُنتُمْ تَكْتُمُونَ
    You had killed a soul, then disputed among yourselves about it (HER). GOD was to expose what you tried to concea
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    In Arabic the word used was “then disputed among yourselves about HER”. So the Koran did not say “about Him” even though it was a man who was killed but the Koran used the word “Her” to refer to the soul of the man. So the reason why the Koran used female form and not male (even thought the one killed was a man) is because the koran is referring to the soul that belonged to a man
    .


    وَإِذَا وَقَعَ الْقَوْلُ عَلَيْهِمْ أَخْرَجْنَا لَهُمْ دَابَّةً مِّنَ الْأَرْضِ تُكَلِّمُهُمْ أَنَّ النَّاسَ كَانُوا بِآيَاتِنَا لَا يُوقِنُونَ
    And when the Word is fulfilled against them (the unjust), we shall produce from the earth a creature to (face) them: She will speak to them, for that mankind did not believe with assurance in Our Signs.
    An-Naml, Chapter #27, Verse #82


    Meaning he speaks of the soul of the son of Mary that Allah has send to the body of the son of Mary, so he stands and walks therefore he is called “Dabbah/Creature”. He is a human just like you, and speaks to you in adulthood/maturity/old age “Kahl” with a beard with white and black hair
    .

    اللَّهُ الَّذِي خَلَقَكُم مِّن ضَعْفٍ ثُمَّ جَعَلَ مِن بَعْدِ ضَعْفٍ قُوَّةً ثُمَّ جَعَلَ مِن بَعْدِ قُوَّةٍ ضَعْفًا وَشَيْبَةً ۚ يَخْلُقُ مَا يَشَاءُ ۖ وَهُوَ الْعَلِيمُ الْقَدِيرُ
    GOD is the One who created you weak, then granted you after the weakness strength, then substituted after the strength weakness and gray hair. He creates whatever He wills. He is the Omniscient, the Omnipotent.
    Ar-Room, Chapter #30, Verse #54


    Meaning that the age of “Kahl” is the beginning of the phase when the strength of youth is gradually fading, which is during mid life

    extract from:
    اقتباس المشاركة :
    (بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم)

    من المهدي المنتظر الإمام الناصر لمحمد رسول الله صلى الله عليه وأله وسلم والقرأن العظيم ناصر محمد
    اليماني إلى الناس أجمعين والسلام على من أتبع الهُدى ثم أما (بعد)

    قال الله تعالى:
    ((وَإِذَا وَقَعَ الْقَوْلُ عَلَيْهِمْ أَخْرَجْنَا لَهُمْ دَابَّةً مِّنَ الْأَرْضِ تُكَلِّمُهُمْ أَنَّ النَّاسَ كَانُوا بِآيَاتِنَا لَا يُوقِنُونَ)) صدق الله العظيم, [النمل:82]

    فما هي الدابة ؟ إنها إنسان..

    وقال الله تعالى:
    ((وَلَوْ يُؤَاخِذُ اللَّهُ النَّاسَ بِظُلْمِهِم مَّا تَرَكَ عَلَيْهَا مِن دَابَّةٍ وَلَٰكِن يُؤَخِّرُهُمْ إِلَىٰ أَجَلٍ مُّسَمًّى ۖ فَإِذَا جَاءَ أَجَلُهُمْ لَا يَسْتَأْخِرُونَ سَاعَةً ۖ وَلَا يَسْتَقْدِمُونَ)) صدق الله العظيم, [النحل:61]

    إذاً الدابة هو إنسان حكم بالحق بين المسلمين والنصارى هل يتخذ الله ولداً فكيف تكون حيوان بل الدابة
    التي تكلمكم هي الكلمة التي ألقاها إلى مريم البتول كُن فيكون إنه الإنسان مثلاً لقدرة الرحمن أن يخلق
    إنسان بغير أب بكُن فيكون كما ضرب في ذلك مثل من قبل وخلق أدم بغير أب ولا أم ومن ثم خلق حواء
    بغير أم ثم زادكم مثل لقدرته وخلق المسيح عيسى بن مريم بغير أب لعلكم توقنون أن الله على كُل شيء
    قدير وقال الله تعالى:
    ((إِنَّ مَثَلَ عِيسَىٰ عِندَ اللَّهِ كَمَثَلِ آدَمَ ۖ خَلَقَهُ مِن تُرَابٍ ثُمَّ قَالَ لَهُ كُن فَيَكُونُ)) صدق الله العظيم, [آل عمران:59]

    فعلموا أن الدابة التي سوف تكلمكم بالحق إنها كلمة الله التي ألقاها إلى مريم كُن فيكون

    وقال الله تعالى:
    ((وَيُكَلِّمُ النَّاسَ فِي الْمَهْدِ وَكَهْلًا وَمِنَ الصَّالِحِينَ)) صدق الله العظيم, [آل عمران:46]

    فأما المعجزة الأولى فهي أن يكلمكم إبن مريم وهو في المهد صبياً وقد مضت وأنقضت يوم ميلاده عليه
    الصلاة والسلام ولكنها جاءت معجزة البعث والتكليم بإذن الله فيعيد الله نفس إبن مريم إلى جسدها
    ليكلمكم المسيح عيسى بن مريم وهو كهل فإذا لم تُصدقون إذاً فما هي المعجزة أن يكلمكم المسيح
    عيسى بن مريم عليه الصلاة والسلام وسنه كهل فهل إذا كلمكم أحدكم وهو كهل ترون في ذلك معجزة؟!

    كلا بل المعجزة أن تكلمكم نفسٌ قد توفاها الله كيف يشاء ثم يعيدها إلى الجسد فتكلمكم فتلك من معجزات
    قدرته تعالى ولربما يود أحدكم أن يُقاطعني فيقول ولكن الله قال في القرأن تكلمهم وليس يُكلمهم!!

    ومن ثم نرد عليه فنقول إنما جاء التأنيث نظراً لأنه يتكلم عن عودة الروح والنفس لإبن مريم إلى جسدها
    لذلك جاءت كلمة التأنيث برغم أن الذي سوف يكلمكم هو ذكر ويأتي التأنيث حين يتكلم القرأن عن النفس
    كمثال قول الله تعالى عن النفس التي قُتلت في بني إسرائيل وتجادلوا فيها وقال الله تعالى:

    ((وَإِذْ قَتَلْتُمْ نَفْسًا فَادَّارَأْتُمْ فِيهَا ۖ وَاللَّهُ مُخْرِجٌ مَّا كُنتُمْ تَكْتُمُونَ)) صدق الله العظيم, [البقرة:72]

    ولم يقول القرأن: ((فَادَّارَأْتُمْ فِيهَ)) بل قال تعالى: ((فَادَّارَأْتُمْ فِيهَا)) برغم أن المقتول مذكر وليس مؤنث ولكن سبب
    التأنيث بادئ القول لأنه يتكلم عن النفس وكذلك قول الله تعالى:

    ((وَإِذَا وَقَعَ الْقَوْلُ عَلَيْهِمْ أَخْرَجْنَا لَهُمْ دَابَّةً مِّنَ الْأَرْضِ تُكَلِّمُهُمْ أَنَّ النَّاسَ كَانُوا بِآيَاتِنَا لَا يُوقِنُونَ)) صدق الله العظيم, [النمل:82]

    بمعنى أنه يتكلم عن نفس إبن مريم التي أرسلها الله من عنده إلى الجسد لإبن مريم فيقوم حي يمشي
    لذك يُسمى دابه وهو إنسان مثله مثلكم فيكلمكم وهو كهلاً ذو لحية مشموطة بالشعر الأبيض والأسود
    والكهل هو ضُعف قوة الشباب ودون الشيبة..

    وقال الله تعالى:
    ((اللَّهُ الَّذِي خَلَقَكُم مِّن ضَعْفٍ ثُمَّ جَعَلَ مِن بَعْدِ ضَعْفٍ قُوَّةً ثُمَّ جَعَلَ مِن بَعْدِ قُوَّةٍ ضَعْفًا وَشَيْبَةً ۚ يَخْلُقُ مَا يَشَاءُ ۖ وَهُوَ الْعَلِيمُ الْقَدِيرُ)) صدق الله العظيم, [الروم:54]

    بمعنى أن سن الكهل هو بداية التحول لقوة الشباب إلى الضعف وهو منتصف عمر الإنسان.
    انتهى الاقتباس
    extract from following statement

    :

    بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم
    وَجَاءَ مِنْ أَقْصَى الْمَدِينَةِ رَجُلٌ يَسْعَىٰ قَالَ يَا قَوْمِ اتَّبِعُوا الْمُرْسَلِينَ
    اتَّبِعُوا مَن لَّا يَسْأَلُكُمْ أَجْرًا وَهُم مُّهْتَدُونَ
    صدق الله العظيم

    بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم
    يَا حَسْرَةً عَلَى الْعِبَادِ ۚ مَا يَأْتِيهِم مِّن رَّسُولٍ إِلَّا كَانُوا بِهِ يَسْتَهْزِئُونَ
    صدق الله العظيم

  2. افتراضي

    Assalamu Alaikum
    What is a Daabbah? Why Allah describes Dawwab as separate category from human beings? What is difference between a human being and a Daabbah?
    1-Allah mentions the humans , the Dawwaab and grazing cattle as three different categories.
    (a) 035:028 And among people and moving creatures and grazing livestock are various colors similarly. Only those fear Allah , from among His servants, who have knowledge. Indeed, Allah is Exalted in Might and Forgiving.
    (b) 045:004 And in the creation of yourselves and what He disperses of moving creatures are signs for people who are certain [in faith].
    (c) 029:060 And how many a creature carries not its [own] provision. Allah provides for it and for you. And He is the Hearing, the Knowing.
    (d) 022:018 Do you not see that to Allah prostrates whoever is in the heavens and whoever is on the earth and the sun, the moon, the stars, the mountains, the trees, the moving creatures and many of the people? But upon many the punishment has been justified. And he whom Allah humiliates - for him there is no bestower of honor. Indeed, Allah does what He wills.

    2- What is a Dabatul Ardh?
    034:014 And when We decreed for Solomon death, nothing indicated to the jinn his death except a creature of the earth eating his staff. But when he fell, it became clear to the jinn that if they had known the unseen, they would not have remained in humiliating punishment.

    3- What is Dabatum Minal Ardh?
    027:082 And when the word befalls them, We will bring forth for them a creature out of the earth speaking to them, because the people dis not believe in Our signs.

    4- What does the verse of Dabatum Min al Ardh means?
    (a) In this verse Dabatum min al Ardh is the speaker and "An-Naas" are the audience so 'Dabatum min al Ardh" and "An-Naas" are mentioned by Allah as two different categories.
    (b) Dabatum min al Ardh will be a sign from Allah (an unusual thing/event like the Naqah of Thamud, Rod of Moses, Resurrection of the dead by Jesus etc ) because other Dawwab (moving creatures) did never speak to "An-Naas" before this new and strange ''Dabatum min al Ardh"
    (c) This verse does not tell that 'Dabatum min al Ardh" will say to "An-Naas" that "An-Naas" did not believe in Allah's Signs. The translation by Sahih International is not correct.
    (d) It is a statement of Kufr if someone says that Allah is unable to produce a non human, Daabbatum minal Ardh which will speak to human beings. If Allah can enable prophet Sulaiman to communicate with Ad-Dawwab, Cattle and Birds how can Allah be unable to make a non human Daabbatum min al Ardh to speak to An-Naas? InnAllaha ala Kulli Shayin Qadeer.


    4-Differences and Similarity between creation of Adam and creation of Jesus (PBUH)
    (a) Both Adam and Jesus (Isa) were created without a father through the command of "Kunn" from Allah.
    (b)Jesus was son of Maryam his mother while Adam had no mother.
    (c) Jesus was produced out the womb of his mother Maryam but Adam was directly created from the Earth.
    053:032 He was most knowing of you when He produced you from the earth and when you were fetuses in the wombs of your mothers. So do not claim yourselves to be pure; He is most knowing of who fears Him.

    5-Jesus is not dead and needs not to be resurrected. Rather he was made to undergo a sleep-like state of life and ascended to Allah. Dabatum min al Ardh will not be a resurrected human being but a brand new surprising SIGN from Allah created out of the dust and clay.
    039:042 Allah takes the souls at the time of their death, and those that do not die [He takes] during their sleep. Then He keeps those for which He has decreed death and releases the others for a specified term. Indeed in that are signs for a people who give thought.
    004:157 And [for] their saying, "Indeed, we have killed the Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, the messenger of Allah." And they did not kill him, nor did they crucify him; but [another] was made to resemble him to them. And indeed, those who differ over it are in doubt about it. They have no knowledge of it except the following of assumption. And they did not kill him, for certain.
    003:055 [Mention] when Allah said, "O Jesus, indeed I will take you and raise you to Myself and purify you from those who disbelieve and make those who follow you [in submission to Allah alone] superior to those who disbelieve until the Day of Resurrection. Then to Me is your return, and I will judge between you concerning that in which you used to differ.

    6-(a) So Daabbatum min al Ardh according to Quraan is moving creature other than "An-Naas".
    (b) Daabbatum min al Ardh will be be freshly created by Allah as a SIGN of Allah without a father and mother and will emerge out of the earth
    (c) Daabbatm Min al Ardh will be having verbal conversations with An-Naas to make them believe in the Signs of Allah to fulfil Allah's prediction:
    041:053 (Mohsin Khan We will show them Our Signs in the universe, and in their ownselves, until it becomes manifest to them that this (the Quran) is the truth. Is it not sufficient in regard to your Lord that He is a Witness over all things?

    7-If brother Nasser considers Daabbatum minal Ardh as the Christ, it may mean that brother Nasser is paving the way for the False Christ who may actually be the Anti-Christ who will claim to be the Christ and will emerge out of the earth or from the hollow earth or from an underground colony of so called Agartha or Shambala. Brother Nasser is already obsessed with the New-Age metaphysical theory of Planet X/Nibiru which was originally introduced by someone else conspiracy theorist. The idea was first put forward in 1995 by Nancy Lieder, founder of the website ZetaTalk. Lieder describes herself as a contactee with the ability to receive messages from extraterrestrials from the Zeta Reticuli star system through an implant in her brain. She states that she was chosen to warn mankind that the object would sweep through the inner Solar System in May 2003 (though that date was later abandoned) causing Earth to undergo a pole shift that would destroy most of humanity.

    May Allah guide brother Nasser and everyone of the humanity to Allah's true Straight Path. Aameen. Wassalamu ala manittaba al Huda.

  3. افتراضي

    Assalam Aleykum to all brothers and supporters, if I am not mistaken Jesus's body in Yemen...May someone tell me how his body was brought there? It is known that Jesus ( Peace be Upon him and his mother) confronted people of Rome and disappeared in the Jewish territory.

  4. افتراضي

    In the name of Allah the All Merciful, the Most Merciful, Allah's peace, mercy and His blessings be upon you and upon our honorable Imam and his righteous family, and to all the supporters and searchers for the Truth.
    Allah's khalifa the Imam Nasser Mohammad Al-Yemeni,forgiveness and peace be upon him taught us that the Messiah Jesus son of Mary (peace be upon him and his mother) when the children of Israel wanted to kill him, Allah the All Merciful, the Most Merciful, send angels to take his soul and they purified his body and put it in the coffin of peace (Taboot Al-Sakeena) and the angels placed the coffin in the cave where the three prophets who are brothers and companions of the cave, so he became the added number whom they will be resurrected by Allah's permission and will after the passage of planet Saqar Niburu on the first resurrection and they will be followers Allah's khalifa the Awaited Mahdi Imam Nasser Mohammad Al-Yemeni forgiveness and peace be upon them all, and as for the body that they put on the cross at that time Allah created it without a soul to look a like Jesus where they thought that they killed Jesus the son of Mary but they killed him not.
    Peace be upon the messengers, and praise be to the Lord of the worlds.

  5. افتراضي

    Peace be upon you and your family as well. Thank you. Please, if you have time could you show ayat from Quran says about what you said above. I am going to show it to my friend from Jordan. He is in doubt about many things I have told him.

  6. افتراضي

    In the name of Allah the All Merciful, the Most Merciful, Allah's peace, mercy and His blessings be upon you and your family,
    My son we should not give to others except our Imam's statements for the great Quran and this friend of yours knows Arabic so invite him to visit this blessed website of Allah's khalifathe Imam Nasser Mohammad Al-Yemeni,forgiveness and peace be upon him and the following are some of the statements in this regard:
    https://nasser-alyamani.org/showthread.php?1163
    https://nasser-alyamani.org/showthread.php?1152
    Translation will follow with Allah's will for these statements

  7. افتراضي

    اقتباس المشاركة : راضيه بالنعيم الأعظم
    In the name of Allah the All Merciful, the Most Merciful, Allah's peace, mercy and His blessings be upon you and your family,
    My son we should not give to others except our Imam's statements for the great Quran and this friend of yours knows Arabic so invite him to visit this blessed website of Allah's khalifathe Imam Nasser Mohammad Al-Yemeni,forgiveness and peace be upon him and the following are some of the statements in this regard:
    https://nasser-alyamani.org/showthread.php?1163
    https://nasser-alyamani.org/showthread.php?1152
    Translation will follow with Allah's will for these statements
    انتهى الاقتباس من راضيه بالنعيم الأعظم

    Thank you. I will show him a page of it and he will translate it for me. I have told him to visit the website already but he has no internet.

  8. افتراضي

    I was wondering about the approximate age that Jesus, peace and blessings be upon him, was taken up .
    In the bible, only Jesus childhood is mentioned, then a great expanse of silence on his whereabouts, then Jesus appears again in the Bible until he is mentioned in the crucifixion. Also there are rumors and stories that during this time of silence in the Bible, Jesus was traveling in countries like India. This then would seem that the people who altered the Bible, where trying to hide this fact, that Jesus was young, and has no adulthood history or story to tell, and that they made the silence period a transition of sorts to adulthood for the crucifixion story...!!!...??? Allah knows best.
    My question is.....was Jesus a very young man when he was taken up by Allah ?........and this is the reason there is no adulthood or stories as such until the crucifixion?
    This would then be in line with what Nasser Muhammad says about Jesus speaking in maturity, adulthood. But as for the Bible, they assume after the silence period, that he was then seen as an adult in maturity.
    But the question just arose, that Jesus must of been very young when Allah took him..!!!....for this next phase, miracle to happen.

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    اقتباس المشاركة : Teachme
    I was wondering about the approximate age that Jesus, peace and blessings be upon him, was taken up .
    In the bible, only Jesus childhood is mentioned, then a great expanse of silence on his whereabouts, then Jesus appears again in the Bible until he is mentioned in the crucifixion. Also there are rumors and stories that during this time of silence in the Bible, Jesus was traveling in countries like India. This then would seem that the people who altered the Bible, where trying to hide this fact, that Jesus was young, and has no adulthood history or story to tell, and that they made the silence period a transition of sorts to adulthood for the crucifixion story...!!!...??? Allah knows best.
    My question is.....was Jesus a very young man when he was taken up by Allah ?........and this is the reason there is no adulthood or stories as such until the crucifixion?
    This would then be in line with what Nasser Muhammad says about Jesus speaking in maturity, adulthood. But as for the Bible, they assume after the silence period, that he was then seen as an adult in maturity.
    I do not disagree with Nasser Muhammad, rather I believe what he says on all subject matter. But the question just arose, that Jesus must of been very young when Allah took him..!!!....for this next phase, miracle to happen.
    انتهى الاقتباس من Teachme
    Dear Teachme



    As far as I know that Jesus age when the God took his soul was around 33, this is what I heard.
    For the bible you can't count on what is mentioned, as you know it is misrepresentation

    Allah knows best
    Salamalykum

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